Do Bush and Rove believe we are stupid? First, he cannot clain that curren law is inefficient and insufficient when he has made no serious effort to enforce current law. Based on past performance, why would any reasonable person believe that he would effectively use the just added $4.4 billion to secure the border? If we do need workers from other countries for our country to continue to grow I vote we get them from the legal immigrant applicants that are in line and clamoring to be admitted according to our laws. That is the immigrant welcoming tradition that most Americans wish to uphold. How does granting citizenship to illegal immigrants instead of welcoming those who have applied in accordance with our laws, uphold the rule of law? Bush`s prescription will only encourage future law breakers like the last Amnesty bill did. The only immigration reform we need at this time is a law to deny citizenship to children born in this country to illegal immigrants. Even the Congressional Budget office reports that, at best, passage of this boondoggle would decrease illegal immigration by a mere 13%. There is nothing to indicate that enforcement of current law would not have better results.

If you really want to see what is going on with George and the lobbyists truly go to you tube and type in(((((( Cohen immigration )))))and you will find

Immigration attorneys from Cohen & Grigsby explains how they assist employers in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified applicants, and the steps they go through to disqualify even the most qualified Americans in order to secure green cards for H-1b workers. See what Bush and Congress really mean by a "shortage of skilled U.S. workers." Microsoft, Oracle, Hewlett-Packard, and thousands of other companies are running fake ads in Sunday newspapers across the country each week.
I tried to type the address but abc wouldn't let me.
Its OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen up Bush, Senators, and Representatives. What's the point of this bill? You aren't even enforcing the current immigration law. Ridiculous.

The following things needs to be done:

- Secure our borders and ports physically. This is absolutely the first thing that needs to be done. Even before talking about a new immigration bill.

- Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law.

- No amnesty. We have any where from 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in our country. It's very sad that our government doesn't know the exact number

- No social/entitlement programs for illegal aliens. Taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. It's free for them but not for us, the American taxpayers!

- End birthright citizenship (AKA No more anchor babies). As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

I'm all for legal immigration but 100% against ILLEGAL immigration.

America - call your Representatives today! Stop the injustice. We, the American taxpayers, come first!

This amnesty bill has destroyed the presidential campaign of McCain, it is further destroying the legacy of President Bush, and it will taint or destroy the political career of any Republican senator making a claim to be conservative that supports it.

How naive do these tin-eared politicians think the public is?

The issue here is what this illegal immigration battle really tells us about America's leadership, the will of the American people, and the value of our citizenship: When we are willing to legalize amnesty for those who ignore our borders and our laws, when we are willing to put their demands ahead of the rights and wishes of the vast majority of American citizens, it means America has lost its soul -- the essential will to protect itself and serve its own citizens.

When history's greatest democracy demonstrates it does not care to secure its own borders from terrorists, illegals, and massive drug shipments; when we do not care to protect our own citizens from those who will only add to the millions of unemployed already here; when we are willing to add millions more illiterate people to the millions of undereducated children already in our overburdened schools; when a nation's borders become meaningless lines on a map; then you have a nation that has lost its will to survive.

America is the Disneyland of the world. For all our problems and crises, we are still "the happiest place on earth." But Disneyland the amusement park would not exist, would not survive one day, if it did not secure entrance into it with walls and fences. Disneyland the park would be overrun and destroyed if it did not secure itself and force everyone to get in line, wait their turn, and pay a high price before entry.

"Disneyland America" has lost its soul because only a nation without the most basic sense of itself would be negotiating in Congress to protect its own borders! Do we leave our doors unlocked and allow anyone to enter our homes? Do we allow intruders to stake their claim to our property by simply demanding it and not leaving until it is theirs legally?

When American citizens have to NEGOTIATE with their own President to protect their most vital interests, when even our elected officials do not understand that foreigners have no rights here other than as pre-approved visitors, then America lacks the leadership and will to survive and succeed.
 

If Bush needs more immigrants to work, I'm for rounding up the illegals and giving them the job, and deduct taxes,from the Govt. the illegals, I heard on a news cast. They sent home to Mexico,0ver S400,ooo,ooo,ooo . They do work American won't do, huh, in a paper yesterday, I saw an add in Mexican, workers for $8.00 an hour. That sure ain't low wages for some one that gets the job.

Senator Ten Kennedy is the originator and main pusher of the previous 1965 and the 1986 Immigration bills about which he made the following promises:
(LIE #1) The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants.
(LIE #2) It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society.
(LIE #3)I t will not relax the standards of admission.
(LIE #4) It will not result in their use of welfare benefits.
(LIE #5) It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs or experience reduced pay
(LIE #6) This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.3 million illegal aliens.
(LIE #7) We will secure the borders henceforth.
(LIE #8) We will never again bring forth an amnesty bill like this again.
Who would be STUPID enough to believe that our Government would do a better job at Illegal enforcement in 2007 and beyond, than it has done to date?

Quite a bitter lot, complaining so much when something is being done about it. What could you ask for? All of you must be personally affected by this problem, yes?
I agree completely that the authorities have not been doing an adequate job when dealing with the issue of illegal immigration.
The fact of the matter is that it isn't working for a very long time and something must be done!
Does anyone know that it would only get worse before it gets better? And it would only get better if congress does something about it.
Your cynical views are not helping at all. What's needed are solutions, and no lawmaker should be excused for just doing nothing, whatever the excuse may be. Thus the problem grows worse.
Does anyone have a realistic and pragmatic view to this situation? Complaining and not doing anything substantive is what got us in this quandary.
And all this push back from the lot of us will confound the problem further.
Politicians are known for doing nothing effectual, and for some of us really vocal opponents, we are supporting their course of inaction.
How many of us would prefer that in the end?

Good morning, Sunshine! Thats to all of the conservative idiots out there. Wake up and realize that this president is the first in history that has seized power and become a dictator. And most Americans can't see this LOL! Bush is evil...he is the modern day Caligula...I look forward to his trial for war crimes....

george bush is killing the american people by this senceless war of his just like his dad war war and not the immagrants he is allowing to come here stop this no wonder this country is in such a bad shape bush has us all screwed up.i guess as long as he his linning his pockets that makes it ok well wrong and now our social security is going to the mexicans our jobs our homes.just more of them getting in our monies welefare it just isnt right or fair to the working american people to have to pay so much taxes and have thoes immagrints pay none george bush get the heck out of office so we can put this country back together again.

Bush does not want to follow the rule of law.

STOP THE LUNATIC NOW!!! Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to end illegal immigration. He voted for a border fence, opposes the current Senate "compromise" bill, and introduced legislation to end birth right citizenship. Dr. Paul has consistently warned Americans about the looming menace of the North American Union and is the only presidential candidate calling for an end to welfare benefits, mandatory medical care and free education for illegal aliens.
No leader in Washington has fought to end illegal immigration harder than Congressman Ron Paul. Dr. Paul knows that America must never grant amnesty to those who are in our country illegally.
The following are statements Dr. Paul has made in the U.S. House of Representatives:
-- "The much-vaunted Senate "compromise" on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are."
-- "If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty."
-- "...real national security cannot be achieved unless and until our borders are physically secured. It's as simple as that. All the talk about fighting terror and making America safer is meaningless without border security. It makes no sense to seek terrorists abroad if our own front door is left unlocked."
HERE IS HOW YOUR REPS VOTED!!!
DO WHAT NEEDSA TO BE DONE NOW!!!
12 Senators from the Democratic side of the aisle joined us in opposing the amnesty and huge increase in foreign workers: Baucus (D-Mont.) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-Calif.) Byrd (D-WV) Dorgan (D-ND) * Landrieu (D-La.) McCaskill (D-Mo.) * Pryor (D-Ark.) * Rockefeller(D-WV) Sanders (I-Vt.) Tester (D-Mont.) Webb (D-Va.) *Interestingly, Landrieu, Pryor and Rockefeller are up for re-election next year. SWITCHED FROM BAD TO GOOD * Alexander (R-TN) Bennett (R-UT) * Cochran (R-MS) * Coleman (R-MN) * Collins (R-ME) * Cornyn (R-TX) * Craig (R-ID) * Domenici (R-NM) Gregg (R-NH) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) * McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) * Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Stevens (R-AK) * Warner (R-VA) VOTED AGAINST AMNESTY LAST YEAR & THIS YEAR * Allard (R-CO) Bond (R-MO) Bunning (R-KY) Burr (R-NC) * Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Ensign (R-NV) Grassley (R-IA) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Roberts (R-KS) * Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) * Sununu (R-NH) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) *In addition, the one new Republican Senator, Corker of Tennessee, lived up to his campaign promise to oppose amnesties. Two major disappointments on the Democratic side were: Nelson (D-Neb.) Stabenow (D-Mich.) THE SELLOUT SEVEN * Graham (R-SC) * Hagel (R-Neb.) Lugar (R-Ind.) Martinez (R-Fla.) McCain (R-Ariz.) Specter (R-Pa.) Voinovich (R-Ohio) ANTI-WORKER DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED FOR THE AMNESTY Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Brown (D-OH) Cantwell (D-WA) Cardin (D-MD) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Clinton (D-NY) Conrad (D-ND) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Klobuchar (D-MN) Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Salazar (D-CO) Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wyden (D-OR)

 

Chappaquiddick Teddy is and has been a criminal sense the event with the same name! His name is a dead weight around the neck of the great Kennedy’s; he must need cheap labor or he wouldn't be on the side of illegal cheap labor that the millionaire wealthy businesses have political pushed to accomplish undermining what the general public doesn't want! To quote the “BAD” Bush “We are a nation of Laws” except for the illegal criminal aliens that we need for cheap labor! This president is the worst president, biggest liar, most disgraceful president in our history.
They are taking jobs building our million dollar houses in California, Utah, Arizona etc. I’ve been told by the housing contractors (Businessmen) won’t use “lazy Americans” to build these homes. The real reason is that an illegal’s will work for $5 an hour and give 10 hours of work for 8 hours of pay and will never(for now) demand benefits form the employer(why should they when its free from our government- medical, food stamps kids schooled, etc).
We can’t afford to pay $20-$40 and hour fro carpenters when the houses are costing Americans 1,000,000 dollars; the cheap illegal labor hasn’t lower the cost at all so the benefit is CHEAP illegal Labor?
One example of the wealthy American network to bring cheap illegal labor to increase the only thing they know $$$ capitalists pigs after every penny they can squeeze out of America or any other country they can squeeze blood from. Those of you who haven’t experienced the overload of illegal’s know that 90 % of existing Mexicans want there fellow Mexicans here, for more political power and control of cities they over whelm with their population explosions. Every illegal female is pregnant with 2-3 babies that Americans provide school for and free medical care, if you work you can’t get it but if your illegal they get it for free! Where I live they treat Americans very poorly from their service jobs, they cater to other Mexicans and it’s a form of the way American learned not to treat blacks years ago so if you think it isn’t happing or it can’t; your wrong it has and is occurring in many cities, especially one very large city where I live, they have taken over several cities that make up a large well know city, locally they have renamed the city with a Tijuana prefix.
If this isn’t stopped and the Senate bill isn’t defeated in the Senate we will have to fund free illegal medical care, social security, baby care to 20 million(not 13). But then the businesses of America will have passed new laws (one they don’t want broken) they will force Americans to pay for all this! By the way I have a Daughter that is Mexican so I don’t hate Mexicans a lot of them a wonderful people, its our political system that has failed us and Big business that wants to remove more decent paying jobs.
People say we can’t send them all back but we don’t have to they wil leave if they truly want to become a American citizen if we only allow people who have left our soil a chance to reenter. If we put a HEAVY fine on business and the law beakers, they will leave! The BIG national security issue it that a lot of people that have entered is illegal Chinese, Muslims, Arabs, etc no one talk about this but there are thousand of them here-Bush again on national security-BS!

Kennedy, McCain and Bush thinks that Americans are stupid. Quit pushing your scamesty bill. That's what it is. Your argument of doing nothing is a lie. Enforce the law that we have first. Now who is stupid?

We need this bill now. How about all you people who oppose the bill actually consider the real ramifications of our policies. We are dealing with REAL people. You can call them criminals all you want but what are when you speed? Exactly. How about you all realized the meaning of the words compassion and love, it is Sunday after all. Stop going to church and thanking Jesus for his mercy and grace and then turn round and condemn other people. All these immigrants want is a better life, an American life. A life that most of the opponents did NOTHING to deserve and just happen to find yourself in.

Compare the opinions of those who actually live near the border, they overwhelming believe that we need to have a compassionate plan. Now the biggest opponents, (Senator Session of Alabama) don't know what they are talking about. Just because something is illegal doesnt make it wrong. Consider work of MLK, Ghandi, etc. They broke law after law, do you want to punish them. Dont think so.

Realistic, Practical, Compassionate, and Tough. PASS THE BILL.

Ask yourself, Citizens, how much do you trust the Congress that tried to sneak this through? Do you trust "Above the Law" Bush? Do you think they represent the will of the People? If you've read this far, you know the answer to that. This fight will not be over for 2 election cycles when those who tried to give away my country and sell out the sovereignty of the United States go home. Only then will we begin to take back the country for the People. Call, write, protest, shout it to the rooftops.

Another thing. Bush wants to buy support with promises of money for border protection when it was HIS DUTY to protect the United States borders in the first place. Where was he the last 6 1/2 years? Supporters of this tripe in Congress are lying, and so is Bush.
It's their nature to do so.

It isn't even JUST about the ILLEGAL ALIENS any longer in THIS revised bill. NOW HEAR THIS!!!
If you've been listening to the news, you know that the immigration
bill may soon be back on the U.S. Senate floor for consideration.
Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts has reintroduced his immigration
bill S.1639, which contains many other concerns.

* First, section 205 of the bill could, in the hands of an anti-gun
administration, PUT EVERY MAJOR GUN SHOP OUT OF BUSINESS

* Second, the immigration bill could deny many gun owners their right
to find a job or buy a gun.

In regard to the latter concern, Montana Senator Max Baucus (D) is
sponsoring an amendment that will delete all references to "driver's
licenses" and "identification cards" under the REAL ID Act.

This is a good thing which will have ramifications for gun owners
nationwide.

Baucus is directly representing the interests
of his state.

In April, the state of Montana enacted legislation that
ordered state agencies to REFUSE to implement the REAL ID (a.k.a.,
National ID) card. Currently, there are about a dozen states that
have joined Montana either in blocking the implementation of this law
or in sharply criticizing it. Altogether, about three dozen states
have introduced legislation to deal with this act in one way or
another.

Concerned about the REAL ID law --
which has yet to be implemented -- because of the threat it poses to
gun owners' privacy. The National ID Card is an $11 billion
boondoggle enacted by Congress in 2005, ostensibly as an anti-terror
measure. But, of course, there was not a single 9/11 terrorist who
would have been prevented from boarding a plane because of the lack
of an American driver's license -- or who would be blocked from doing
so today.

NATIONAL ID CARD POSES DANGERS FOR GUN OWNERS

What the National ID Card requirement will do, instead, is to give an
Attorney General (such as, for instance, former Attorney General
Janet Reno) the unfettered discretion to make it dramatically more
difficult and time consuming to get a driver's license. This would
apply equally to new applicants and to Americans who have had their
drivers' licenses for fifty years.

Thus, if an anti-gun administration determined that members of the
militia constituted a threat to national security -- and placed them
on one of its "watch lists" -- many gun owners could soon lose the
ability to travel, open a bank account, drive, check into a hotel,
cash a check, get a job, or PURCHASE A GUN from a dealer.

Seniors who could not locate their fifty-year-old Social Security
cards or birth certificates (or persons who had had those documents
lost or stolen) could face the same fate.

The law would also allow the federal government to determine the
information which must be digitally encoded on the license.
Therefore, an anti-gun administration could theoretically require
that your license contain information about your concealed carry
status. This will make it, to say the least, "interesting" when you
are traveling in parts of the country which are antagonistic to gun
rights.

Further, all of this personal information on you will be available
nationally and internationally on a computer database LEGALLY
accessible to millions of people ... and illegally accessible to
virtually anyone.

The good news is that a single non-compliant state -- such as Montana
-- is probably enough to destroy the entire National ID Card system.
But the immigration bill increases the consequences for a state like
Montana by threatening to deny every citizen the opportunity to find
a job.

IMMIGRATION BILL THREATENS JOBS AND GUNS

Here's how. S. 1639 will require all private sector employees to be
screened by an "electronic employee eligibility verification system"
(Section 1(a)(5)(A)). And Title III of the bill stipulates that no
employer will be able to hire you unless you possess identification
that amounts to a National ID card.

Get the picture? No National ID card... no job.

The fact that section 302(c)(6) asserts that the required
identification is not a "national identification card" is more a
testimony to the lack of honesty of the supporters than it is to the
actuality of federal requirements under the 2005 REAL ID Act. (We
have seen these promises before. Remember when Social Security Cards
used to explicitly state the number and card were never to be used
for identification purposes?)

32 DEFINITE 'NO' ON AMNESTY CLOTURE
Many of you will find ways to express tremendous appreciation and to help solidify them so that no offer from the White House or party leadership can turn them at the last moment.

Alexander (R-Tenn.)
Allard (R-Colo.)
Baucus (D-Mont.)

Byrd (D-W.Va.)
Bunning (R-Ky.)
Chambliss (R-Ga.)

Coburn (R-Okla.)
Corker (R-Tenn.)
Cornyn (R-Texas)

Crapo (R-Idaho)
DeMint (R-S.C.)
Dole (R-N.C.)

Dorgan (D-N.D.)
Enzi (R-Wyo.)
Grassley (R-Iowa)

Hutchison (R-Texas)
Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Isakson (R-Ga.)

Landrieu (D-La.)
McCaskill (D-Mo.)
Pryor (D-Ark.)

Roberts (R-Kan.)
Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)
Sanders (I-Vt.)

Sessions (R-Ala.)
Shelby (R-Ala.)
Smith (R-Ore.)

Stabenow (D-Mich.)
Sununu (R-N.H.)
Tester (D-Mont.)

Thune (R-S.D.)
Vitter (R-La.)

12 SENATORS LEANING NO ON FINAL PASSAGE BUT PROBABLY LEANING YES ON CLOTURE (when it counts)
Please do everything you can to contact these Senators and "help them" understand what is at stake and where the citizens of your state stand.

Bond (R-Mo.)
Bingaman (D-N.M.)
Burr (R-N.C.)

Boxer (D-Calif.)
Cochran (R-Miss.)
Conrad (D-N.D.)

Ensign (R-Nev.)
Levin (D-Mich.)
Gregg (R-N.H.)

Nelson (D-Neb.)
Hatch (R-Utah)
Webb (D-Va.)

ALL OTHER SENATORS APPEAR TO BE PLANNING TO VOTE TO HELP PASS A BILL THAT WOULD BE:

largest amnesty for illegal aliens in history
largest increase in foreign labor in history
largest expansion of social welfare programs in history (to handle the 35-40 million -- mostly low-educated, low-skilled -- foreigners who would get Green Cards over the next 20 years alone

All those Senators need your constant phoning, as well. A few could still be brought to the side of American workers, students and communities and vote NO on the amnesty. And the rest need to be shown full wrath to help the others decide to stay on the side of the voters.

My GOD people we have to stand up and do something about all of this crap!!!!! were not going to have a country left for our children or there children if we dont stop Bush and all his cronnies from just handing our country over to the highest bidder!!!!!!!! I know that hes got time left in office but there has to be something we can do!!! I mean IM disabled and living on a ss check each month if you can call it living. I am making under the poverty level and I cant get any goverment help because they say I make to much money.HA HA HA But we hAve all these illegals & there children that are reciving medical,food housing schooling and our ss money that we have paid into all our lives and they can just get what ever they need . While our children cant get medical help,help going to school & there are a lot of Americans that go hungry& homless but we take cAre of all the BLANK) illegals dont we ????? Isnt there something wrong with this picture? My brother has servsd in the NAVY for 28 yrs. as a seal so hes seen his share of combat and never complaned. But Id like to know what for just to come home to a difernt country not the one he has left so many times??????????? I would like to know where to go to talk to other people about these things &others? IM new to the computer so I dont know how to get to the talk & chat rooms if any one could help !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel sorry that I voted for Mr. George W. Bush in the past.. I feel very sorry.....

Ditto everything that has been stated by most everyone in this room (except those few that would like to see this bill passed). For those of you who would like to see this bill passed, I'd like to give you a few facts to ponder: I did some research with regards to the immigration laws of other countries outside the United States (including Mexico). I'll start with Mexico. It is possible to become a citizen of Mexico AFTER YOU HAVE RESIDED THERE FOR 5 YEARS. In other countries, the wait is even longer than that. In many countries, before you can become a resident, you have to have proof of residence and employment. In many instances, you also have to have a decent command of the dominant language that is spoken in that particular country. There is no nation that I know of that will grant you citizenship without first meeting certain qualifications and stipulations.
For those who would argue that most Americans are descendants from immigrants from other countries, I would agree on that point. My heritage is Irish. But Ireland would not grant me amnesty based simply on that fact. I will reiterate what most Americans that I have spoken to believe: As long as people (Mexican or otherwise) obtain citizenship to the United States LEGALLY, they should be allowed to live and work here freely. But that is not the case with these illegal immigrants. I have been disabled for a year now, and living on SS disability. My monthly stipend won't even cover my mortgage payment, and I am a Registered Nurse who has paid into the Social Security fund for the past 32 years (11 years of that while active duty military). This "Pie in the sky" attitude of doing the right thing, and just giving illegal immigrants free this and free that when they haven't contributed one penny to it, is just not right. There is only so much money to go around. As I stated earlier, if someone wants to immigrate to the U.S. and become a citizen legally, and contribute to our social programs, fine. NO problem. But to come to our country and just start demanding benefits that many of our own citizens don't even have, is just plain selfish and self-centered. WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?

Sorry Mr. President, but the PEOPLE want no part of your program.

I find it hard to believe that any senator who is aware that the Congressional Budget Office concludes that the proposed Bush/Kennedy/McCain bill, if passed, would only reduce illegal immigration by 13% is supporting the bill for any reason other than political pandering for Hispanic votes and libbyist`s money e.g. meat packers, hotel chains, etc. To be clear, this sell-out bill would provide amnesty ("a path to citizenship") not only to the illegal immigrants but to the businesses that have exploited them. This may be news to the politicians, but a majority of Hispanic Americans also oppose this slap in the face to all American workers. Bush/Kennedy/McCain all live behind their fences in gated and guarded communities. If it is good for them, why is it bad for us to want a fenced, gated and guarded border?