NAVAL SEABEE BASE


WE BUILD WE FIGHT


 
GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI

WHY IS THE NAVAL SEABEE BASE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST 
MOTORCYCLE SAFETY COURSES

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STEVEN A. McCALEB
103 ALVERADO DRIVE
LONG BEACH, MISSISSIPPI 39560
PHONE & FAX: (228)-868-8428

E-MAIL: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com

WEB SITE: www.mississippiwebsite.com

History:

http://mississippiwebsite.com/seabeesgpt.htm
                                Click here

My father (Billy Woodrow McCaleb) was one of the first Seabees during WWII
died January 8, 1990, buried Biloxi VA Cemetery

My brother (Billy Haywood McCaleb) was a CEC Officer
Awarded the Purple Heart, and disability
Vietnam

I (Steven Andrew McCaleb) retired an E-6 with 20 years and 9 months active duty Seabee/Navy Counselor
Awarded the Purple Heart, Vietnam
Awarded 100% service-connected disability

 

 


PRESIDENT

GEORGE W. BUSH

First Lady Laura Bush

Vice President Richard B. Cheney

Wife of the Vice President 
Lynne Cheney

Photo: Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld

 

 

 

 

 


             Secretary of Defense
      Hon. Donald H. Rumsfeld

   Small portrait photo of Admiral Clark                                            
               Admiral Vern Clark

ADM Vern Clark
Chief of Naval Operations

2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20350-2000

(2) Commander, Naval Safety Center (COMNAVSAFECEN) shall

manage all aspects of mishap prevention specifically directed to

government and privately owned motor vehicles. COMNAVSAFECEN

shall certify instructors for motorcycle, driver improvement, and

emergency vehicle operator courses; conduct traffic safety

surveys, assist visits and site visits; provide program guidance;

actively promote and develop traffic safety awareness educational

programs, materials and lesson plans; serve as the repository for

Navy and Marine Corps reportable motor vehicle mishap reports;

provide traffic safety statistics and trend analysis; consolidate

and forward the following annual reports to ADUSD (ES) Force

Protection: Annual Safety Belt Usage Report and the Impaired

Driving, Crash, and Injury Data Report in accordance with

reference (a).


       
Portrait of Admiral Robert J. Natter, Commander-In-Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet CINCLANTFLT


Admiral Robert J. Natter, USNCommander-In-Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet

PURPLE HEART 

 

                              Adm. Robert J. Natter

http://www.atlanticfleet.navy.mil/newcinc.htm
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Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast
  

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071

Commanding Officer Commander William A. Oster

Captain Brian R Kelm

Commander Bill Oster

CMDMC Melvin G. Girard

The above picture shows the new XO

On August 23, 2002, Commander Oster assumed the duties as Executive Officer, Naval Construction Battalion Center, Gulfport, Mississippi.

 

Photograph of the Commanding Officer,  CAPT Brian R. Kelm  
COMMANDING OFFICER

Brian R. Kelm
CAPT, CEC, USN

20th Naval Construction Regiment (20th NCR)

Commanding Officer B. R. Kelm Letter
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Seek Eagle cover page to our publications which shows an Eagle with its wings up and its claws holding the American flag .

 

http://www.msf-usa.org/pages/MAIN1.html
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Listings are in alphabetical order. Left column contains states A through M, right column contains states N through W.

MISSISSIPPI IS NOT LISTED

http://www.msf-usa.org/pages/governmentfs.html
click here

With nearly 1000 RiderCourse® sites throughout the United States, there's probably one near you.          

MD  800-638-1722

psause@mdot.state.md.us
akrajewski@mdot.state.md.us

ME  207-338-9587
207-549-5732
ridered@mint.net
mitchBJ@aol.com
MI  800-446-9227
Northwest Michigan Ferris State University
888-BIKENOW
http://www.abateofmichigan.org/schedule.htm
MN 800-407-6677

info@motorcyclesafety.org
http://www.motorcyclesafety.org/

MO 800-446-9227 http://www.mmsp.org
MS 800-446-9227 not available
MT  800-922-2453

motorcycle@msun.edu
http://motorcycle.msun.edu

 

Mississippi does however have the, "MISSISSIPPI MOTORCYCLE ACADEMY," but the Naval Seabee Base will not use this organization.

Keesler Air Force Base however does obtain update for there, "EXPERIENCED RIDER COURSE," from the Mississippi Motorcycle Academy.

THE OUTCOME OF MY BASIC MOTORCYCLE SAFETY COURSE
Click here

                

Subj: Basc Riders Course 
Date: 4/7/02 11:24:56 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: jsoelter@msf-usa.org, wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil
CC: jreuben@msf-usa.org, kkrasner@msf-usa.org, ksanders@msf-usa.org, llongville@msf-usa.org, pwombacher@msf-usa.org, pdavidson@msf-usa.org, rochs@msf-usa.org, rgladden@msf-usa.org, tbuche@msf-usa.org, vday@msf-usa.org, wlarkin@msf-usa.org, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL


I purchased a Goldwing 1800cc, 2001; I have just finished taking your two days Basic Riders Skill Course.

Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi,

Instructor: John Toner, out of Eglin Air Force Base.

I failed the course (there were 8 bikes, seven passed) because of two courses, one was the Cone Weave, and the cones are to close together for a novas rider to master in two days, if at all.

I requested to have my motorcycle walked through the cones to ensure my bike is capable for going through the cones.

I request was denied by the instructors.

The second course is the curve test, this is where you start off, up shift to second, get up to 15mph, down shift to first prior to going through the curve in 1.8 seconds and come out the other side.

My time was 2.6 seconds, according to your instructor, the curve is sharp and I found leaning my bike that far over could have caused me to drop the motorcycle.

I confronted the instructor on these two courses and he said he has had thousands of Goldwing 1800cc, 2001 (or bike just like mine) go through the course with no problem.

I then ask the question, let's say I just purchased this Goldwing 1800cc, 2001, and never been on one before.

Do you (the instructor) I could come out, take the course and pass; he stated that I would need to start with a smaller bike.

This is my complaint, I had the only Goldwing taking this course, there were two large Harley's and they did not get through the Cone Weave and Curve very well.

This being a Basic Riders Course, I feel the course need to be adjusted to large motorcycles.

We have to take this course in order to obtain a base sticker, so why make the course difficult to pass.

Please Respond

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb

 

Subj: No Motorcycle Safety Course - Naval Seabee Base - Gulfport, Mississippi  
Date: 3/15/02 11:37:56 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: President@WhiteHouse.GOV, gene.taylor@mail.house.gov, senatorlott@lott.senate.gov
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil


President George Bush
Commander & Chief Armed Forces
Washington, DC

       President Bush:

       I would like an investigation into the Naval Seabees, Motorcycle Safety Courses, Gulfport, Mississippi.

I have been told by that I must go through their Motorcycle Safety Course before I can have a base sticker on my Motorcycle.

I have contacted the Chief Naval Operations, the Head Instructor in Norfolk, Va., Mr. William (Bill) Cosby, and the Commanding Officer and Executive Officer here at Gulfport, Mississippi.

The Naval Seabee Base does not have a Motorcycle Safety Course but has stated to me that I must go through their Safety Course.

I have placed a WEB PAGE: 
NAVAL SEABEE BASE, GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI
                                                                                        
    

http://mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm
Click here

                                                           
I have completed the Motorcycle Safety Course for Mississippi, which you can see on my web page.

I would like too knowing why I am not able to obtain a base sticker even though I have completed the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course.

Since the Naval Seabee Base does not have a Safety Course how can they turn me down?

Please Reply

Sincerely,


Steven A. McCaleb
Retired Naval Seabee
First Commander, Military Order Purple Heart, Chapter 676, Gulfport, Mississippi.

Motorcycle Safety Course

(Not finished do to information needed)

http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/ashore/MotorVehicle/motorcycle/default.htm

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pentagon/

I spoke with the Executive Officer, Commander Mark C Ashley, Tuesday, March 5, 2002, and explained that I was at base security to obtain a base sticker for my motorcycle.

I was told by the Executive Officer, Commander Mark C. Ashley, that he would have to check into why the safety course I attended was not acceptable for obtaining a base sticker. 

He requested I phone him back (228-871-2555) at 10:00, March 6, 2002, after he had a chance to speak with the Security Officer. The Executive Officer stated that he would be available in his office, but this did not happen. 

I phoned the Executive Officer office at about fifteen after 10:00 and the secretary said he had gone to a three star admiral reception and would not be available for approximately an hour and a half, I call back at 12:15 and the secretary said he had gone home to lunch and would be back later.

I phoned the Executive Officer home and spoke to a lady, who said he had just left to go to his kid’s school, and then he would return to the base.

It seems to me that the Executive Officer knew he would not be available for me to contact him at the time he requested. Which means to me, he may need to be replaced as the Executive Officer of the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi.    

I will request the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Vern Clark to conduct an investigation into this matter.

This is the kind of treatment Seabees get once they retire.

I received the same treatment when I requested the CNO place a permanent back gate to Long Beach, Mississippi, off Commission Road. 

Motorcycle Safety Information

The Motorcycle Safety Programs section of the Motor Vehicle Division provides information on safe riding.  The Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Motorcycle Rider Course "Riding and Street Skills" is used for our safety program.  This 16-hour course concentrates on basic and complex physical skills, mental skills and risk management found lacking in the crash-involved motorcyclist.  Experienced motorcyclists are trained as instructors in the 9-day instructor course.

http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/ashore/MotorVehicle/motorcycle/default.htm

http://neds.nebt.daps.mil/Directives/5100_12g.pdf
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Comments

I am a retired Naval Seabee, I just purchased a 2001 Gold Wing 1800cc.

On March 2, 2002 I attended and completed the "Experienced RiderCourse" of the "Mississippi Motorcycle Academy" This was an 8 hour course, 4hr classroom 4hr riding course.

When I went to the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi, to get a base sticker in order to enter the base. I was told that I could not get a sticker because I had not attended there Military Motorcycle safety course.

I explained that I just finished the Mississippi Motorcycle Academy course, I provided my Completion Card, but was still turned down.

I explained that I had paid $50 for the course.

I have all of my papers needed to obtain a base sticker.

What I would like to know is why I have to go through two motorcycle safety courses in order to receive a base sticker.

Please reply

Steven A. McCaleb www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Return to the form.

Subj: Officer over the Naval Seabee Base  
Date: 3/13/02 11:42:39 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
CC: mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, garcia.felipe@hq.navy.mil


Captain Kelm,

I have phoned the CNO's office and spoke with:
Ensign Felipe D. Garcia, USN
Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
===============================
Office: 703-695-5664
Fax:      703-693-9408
Cell:     703-615-9805
E-mail:  garcia.felipe@hq.navy.mil

We spoke of my e-mail requesting a full and impartial investigation of the Seabee Base Motorcycle Safety Course.

Ensign Felipe D. Garcia, requested that I contact the next person in charge of the Commanding Office of the Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi.

I called your secretary and she would not provide me with the information I requested, instead she said she would have the XO contact me.

Please provide me with the name, address, phone - fax, and email address of your boss.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb

www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm


Subj: RE: Here is my Motorcycle Safety Completion Card  
Date: 3/13/02 2:23:15 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


Thank you for your time concerning the nonexistence of the Naval Seabee Base Motorcycle Safety Course.

I have requested for the Commanding Officer, Captain Kelm information which I deem necessary to obtain a decision concerning a base sticker from the Seabees Base.

I will not be needing you impute on this matter any longer, you failed to contact me when you set the time and date for me to phone you.

The phoned the Chief of Naval Operation, Admiral Vern Clark, spoke with Ensign Gracia.

Ensign Garcia recommended that I go to the Officer in Charge of the Commanding Officer of Captain Kelm.

I have sent an email to Captain Kelm requesting he provide me with the information needed for a decision.

You will be able to view these emails from my web page.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: RE: Here is my Motorcycle Safety Completion Card
Date: 3/13/02 1:26:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Dear Mr. McCaleb

    Thank you for forwarding your Motorcycle Safety Completion Card.
Our staff is reviewing acceptability of this particular course and will
provide you a formal response within 10 working days.

Sincerely,

M.C. Ashley

Subj: RE: Officer over the Naval Seabee Base  
Date: 3/13/02 3:32:27 PM Central Standard Time
From: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb, thank you for you e-mail of 13 March 2002.  My immediate superior is RDML Jan Gaudio, USN and information regarding him may be found in the Commander Navy Region Southeast web page as follows: http://www.cnrse.navy.mil/.
 
Any information regarding command policies in reference to motorcycle requirements may be obtained in person from the Construction Battalion Center's Pass and ID office.  If you wish copies of base directives or instructions to be forwarded to you I recommend that you submit in writing a Freedom of Information Act request either to this command or to the Commander Navy Region Southeast.  Procedures for this are also included in the previously mentioned web page.
 
Further correspondence with me regarding this subject shall be in writing and may be faxed to the below number.
 
Respectfully,
 

Brian Kelm
CAPT, CEC, USN
Commander, 20th Naval Construction Regiment
Commanding Officer, Construction Battalion Center
5200 CBC 2nd Street
Gulfport, MS  39501-5001

Phone Comm/DSN: (228) 871-3320/868-3320
FAX: (228) 871-2879

WITH COMPASSION FOR OTHERS, WE BUILD-WE FIGHT

Subj: Re: Officer over the Naval Seabee Base  
Date: 3/14/02 5:30:37 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
CC: mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil


Captain Kelm, I did not ask for a Biography of your boss (RDML Jan Gaudio)

, I asked for his Name, address, phone - fax, and email address.

Please provide me with this information.

Thank you,

Steven A. McCaleb
First Commander, Military Order of Purple Heart, Chapter 676 - 1994-1995

Subj: Request approval for a base sticker 
Date: 3/18/02 9:17:11 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: flemingc@cnrse.navy.mil
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, garcia.felipe@hq.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071


       Senior Chief Carren Fleming:

       I want to thank you for the conversation and information concerning the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi nonexistent Basic Motorcycle.

       As we spoke, I requested conformation on weather or not the Seabee Base should provide me with a base sticker.

       As you can see on my web page:
NAVAL SEABEE BASE, GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI - March 15, 2002
                                                  Click here

I have taken and passed the Motorcycle Experienced RidersCourse at Gulfport, Mississippi.

Please get back too me on Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio, determination on my request for a base sticker.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm
www.mississippiwebsite.com

Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071

 

It was explained to me by Senior Chief Carren Fleming, at (flemingc@cnrse.navy.mil), Jacksonville Florida that her research showed everyone that wants to obtain a base sticker on a navy base must attend the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course.

I challenged this method of madness because of already going through the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course, (as shown above).

If I take the Motorcycle Safety Course at Keesler Air Force Base, which is seventeen miles away, and I receive a base sticker from Keesler Air Force Base I am allowed to travel on and off the Naval Seabee Base.

The problem is, the Keesler Air Force Base only provides the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course, whereas the Naval Seabee Base doesn't even have a Motorcycle Safety Course to provide.

But here is the kicker, I was told that if I go out in town and go through the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course and pay for it, I can take that RidersCourse Card to the Seabee Base and obtain a base sticker.

However, the instruction states that I must take the Navies Motorcycle Safety Course in order to receive the base sticker.

Subj: Is the motorcycle safety course a DOD instruction 
Date: 3/18/02 3:40:10 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: flemingc@cnrse.navy.mil
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071




Senior Chief Carren Fleming:

I need a copy of the instruction pertaining to the Navies Motorcycle Safety Course.

I need to know if the instruction is a DOD instruction or a Navy Instruction.

If I can go to Keesler Air Force Base and get an Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course Card and obtain an Air Force Base Sticker which is good once placed on my motorcycle.

Which means I still have not gone through the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, which the Naval Seabee Base does not provide?

Then it seems to me this whole idea of having to go through the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course becomes moot.

I believe I want
Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio, get involved with this and request a full and impartial investigation concerning the matter of the Navies Motorcycle Safety Courses.

I feel at this point I have been discriminated against for fighting for what is the right thing to do.
Not everyone ridding a motorcycle needs to attend the Basic Course, and since the Keesler Air Force Base only provides the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course, then the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course I have paid for and completed should be good enough to obtain a base sticker at the Naval Seabee Base.

I am requesting and expecting a full and impartial investigation by, Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio.

If Admiral Guadio feels he has done all he can do, please provide me with the Name, address, phone - fax, and email address of the next senior officer in charge.

This email will be placed into my web page: www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,

Subj: RE: Website Feedback 
Date: 3/19/02 8:35:32 AM Central Standard Time
From: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)





Dear Mr. McCaleb,

I received your phone message.  However, I am currently conducting a
training course and not in the office.  Hopefully my earlier correspondence
answered your questions.

Thanks

W Cosby

Subj: Re: Website Feedback 
Date: 3/19/02 11:14:01 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil


No it did not, If it had of answered my question I would not be requesting a full investigation on this issue by

Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast


1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071

And if I do not get the answers I am looking for I will go to the next Officer in Charge and on and on.

NAVAL SEABEE BASE, GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI - March 15, 2002

                                                     click here
Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm




Subj: Need to change the Motorcycle Safety Course to DOD - MAKE ALL THE SAME 
Date: 3/19/02 4:31:20 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, President@WhiteHouse.GOV
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL


Mr. William Cosby:

I am sorry for the short email this morning but I was on my way out the door when I read your email.

The problem as I see it, there is uniformity with all of the armed forces.

If I go to Keesler Air Force Base and take their Motorcycle Course it will be the same Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course I took from Darrel Gilford.

And If I went ahead and obtained a base sticker for Keesler, I would then be allowed to go on and off the Seabee Base.

But I will still have not taken the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, which the Seabee base requires I must take before I can obtain a base sticker for the Seabee Base.

That's like putting the cart before the horse.

I have requested to the CNO, to have the whole Motorcycle Safety Course be redeveloped and maintain one course for all the DOD.

Now, we come to the matter of the Naval Seabee Base not having Motorcycle Instructors to provide me with the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course.

I am entitled to obtain a base sticker from the Seabee Base; you are the head honcho in the Navy, which must provide me with the 2 days Basic Motorcycle Course at the Naval Seabee Base.

It should not take more than two weeks from today to get the course ready on the Seabee in order for me to take your Basic Course.

So, now it is up too you to provide me with the course by April 2, 2002.

I look forward to taking your Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, and if I fail, I look forward to taking the course again and again.

This email will be placed in my web page.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm


Cc - fax:
Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast


1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/almanac/osd.html
click here

Subj: Request help on acquiring a Base Sticker for my motorcycle 
Date: 3/20/02 11:32:38 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: hotline@dodig.osd.mil
CC: wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL, motorcycle_instructor@yahoo.com, Mccaleb5thdist

photo of Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense
Hon. Donald H. Rumsfeld

photo of Senior Career Official Inspector General
Senior Civilian Official
Department of Defense
Inspector General

Robert J. Lieberman

                                                                                                                                

Senior Civilian Official
Department of Defense
Inspector General
Robert J. Lieberman

http://www.dodig.osd.mil/

103 ALVERADO DRIVE
LONG BEACH, MISSISSIPPI 39560

Mr. Leiberman:

I would like to request a full and impartial investigation concerning the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi (228-871-2555).

Since what I am requesting has been a long process, I would like to request you read my web page: www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

NAVAL SEABEE BASE, GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI - March 15, 2002
                                                           Click here

Since the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi does not have a Motorcycle Safety Course, and I have already completed the Experienced RiderCourse, which is the same course the Keesler Air Force Base Provides.

I have gone through the Chain of Command and I am now too you.

I would think all military commands would have the same Motorcycle Safety Course, (Army, Air Force, Navy, etc.) but as I found out that is not the case.

Please Reply

I would like to have your fax number so I can fax you my complete web page concerning this issue.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
http://mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

U.S. NAVY
Mr. William Cosby
Code 424, Naval Safety Center
375 A. Street
Norfolk, VA 23511-4399
(757) 444-3520 ext. 7135
FAX (757) 444-6044
e-mail:
wcosby@safecen.navy.mil

Subj: Need to change the Motorcycle Safety Course to DOD - MAKE ALL THE SAME 
Date: 3/19/02 4:31:20 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, President@WhiteHouse.GOV
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL


Mr. William Cosby:

I am sorry for the short email this morning but I was on my way out the door when I read your email.

The problem as I see it, there is uniformity with all of the armed forces.

If I go to Keesler Air Force Base and take their Motorcycle Course it will be the same Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course I took from Darrel Gilford.

And If I went ahead and obtained a base sticker for Keesler, I would then be allowed to go on and off the Seabee Base.

But I will still have not taken the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, which the Seabee base requires I must take before I can obtain a base sticker for the Seabee Base.

That's like putting the cart before the horse.

I have requested to the CNO, to have the whole Motorcycle Safety Course be redeveloped and maintain one course for all the DOD.

Now, we come to the matter of the Naval Seabee Base not having Motorcycle Instructors to provide me with the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course.

I am entitled to obtain a base sticker from the Seabee Base; you are the head honcho in the Navy, which must provide me with the 2 days Basic Motorcycle Course at the Naval Seabee Base.

It should not take more than two weeks from today to get the course ready on the Seabee in order for me to take your Basic Course.

So, now it is up too you to provide me with the course by April 2, 2002.

I look forward to taking your Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, and if I fail, I look forward to taking the course again and again.

This email will be placed in my web page.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Cc - fax:
Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071

Subj: (no subject) 
Date: 3/21/02 7:54:24 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil
CC: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Mccaleb5thdist, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil



Please sign your email and provide your title - I want too know whom I am talking with.

I have given Mr. William Cosby two weeks to provide me with the Basic Course here at Gulfport, Mississippi.

I researched the Motorcycle Safety Foundation and placed my finding on my web page.

Mississippi is not included in this program, can you explain why?

The course I have completed to obtain a base sticker out in town is the same course Keesler Air Force Base provides.

The Naval Seabee Base has the responsibility of providing me with their required Motorcycle Safety Course, and I am giving Mr. Cosby enough time to provide me with the course.

Getting a base sticker and Keesler would only be cheating since I must take the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course first.

So, now the ball is in Mr. Williams Cosby court, I am willing to take the Basic Safety Course on the Naval Seabee Base, which is there requirement.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: FW: RE: Request help on acquiring a Base Sticker for my motorcycl e
Date: 3/21/02 7:31:47 AM Central Standard Time
From: MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil <mailto:MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil>
To: <mailto:mccaleb4thdist@aol.com> mccaleb4thdist@aol.com <mailto:mccaleb4thdist@aol.com>
CC: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil <mailto:WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil>
Sent from the Internet (Details) <aolmsg://01840d70/inethdr/1>


Dear Mr. Mccaleb,
Mr. Bill Cosby has shared your emails with me concerning your desire
for uniform motorcycle instructional programs among our military services
and your inability to receive a qualifying course at Naval Construction
Battalion Center, Gulfport, Mississippi.
Your recommendation that the separate military traffic safety
programs agree upon just one course for motorcycle instruction is sound.
In fact, I am the chairman of the DoD Traffic Safety Working Group, a
group consisting of traffic managers from each of the military services.
One of our agenda items includes discussion of this issue.
Concerning your inability to obtain a course that meets the
requirements listed in OPNAVINST 5100.12G (Navy Traffic Safety Program),
you should deal with the Safety Office at Naval Construction Battalion
Center, Gulfport. The Naval Safety Center does not involve itself in
scheduling of local courses.
The Navy specifies the Motorcycle RiderCourse: Riding and Street
Skills (MRC:RSS) as its training requirement. The MRC:RSS is a 16 hour
curriculum that focuses on the individual skills necessary for basic
motorcycle operation, and is specifically designed to focus on development
of the individual components of each of these skills. The course you
indicate you took, the Experienced RiderCourse, was originally developed
for individuals who have completed the MRC:RSS. It does not meet the
Navy's training requirement.
As Mr. Cosby mentioned in his phone conversation with you on March
6, if your motorcycle training meets the requirements for Keesler Air
Force Base, you should be eligible for a pass from that base. This pass
should help you gain access to the Navy Base.



Subj: RE: (no subject) 
Date: 3/21/02 8:24:58 AM Central Standard Time
From: MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com, MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil
CC: WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, FlemingC@cnrse.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. Mccaleb, I am the Traffic and Off-Duty Recreation Safety Division Head.
                Michael Brownley

Subj: RE: Motorcycle Safety Foundation Course 
Date: 3/21/02 2:11:58 PM Central Standard Time
From: MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, gwillis@safetycenter.navy.mil, WCosby@safetycenter.navy.mil
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. Mccaleb,
    I'm sorry that I'm not familiar with the schedule of motorcycle courses
provided at Gulfport MS or the availability of instructors.
    I hope that the correspondence previously provided by both Mr. Cosby and
myself has been of assistance to you.  The recommendations provided in our
earlier responses remain valid.

Subj: Re: Motorcycle Safety Foundation Course 
Date: 3/21/02 4:25:24 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: MBrownley@safetycenter.navy.mil, president@whitehouse.gov
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL, Mccaleb5thdist


That is the reason I am ensuring that in the near future I will be able to be in compliance with the Naval Seabee Base instruction.

I am required to take their course, and the Base is required to provide me with the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course.

I cannot obtain a base sticker until I have taken the course, and that is where Mr. William Cosby is required to provide me with the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course.

What you are failing to understand, is that I am the one which is not be dealt with fairly, I am trying to come into compliance with the base instruction but there is no course to be provided.

I will email everyday to someone until the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course is provided too me on the Naval Seabee Base.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: Next in line of Jan C. Gauido Chain of Command 
Date: 3/22/02 10:05:53 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL
CC: Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, Mccaleb5thdist
 

Rear Admiral Jan C. Gaudio,
U.S. Navy,
Commander,
Navy Region Southeast

1-904-542-2324 - 2325
Fax: 1-904-542-3071


Please provide me with the name, address, phone-fax, and email address of the next officer in the Chain of Command for Rear Admiral Jan C. Gauido.

It seems no action has been taken, so I need to move on up to the next level.

I would like this information today; I will call this afternoon if I have not received my requested information.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm


Subj: Motor Cycle Safety Course 
Date: 3/25/02 8:42:22 AM Central Standard Time
From: mclainge@kitty-hawk.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Shipmate,
Up until 20 September 2001 I had been instructing Motorcycle Safety Course
at Naval Air Facility Atsugi in Japan.  Sep 20 I transferred to USS Kitty
Hawk and have not rode my scoot let alone teach a class since.  I have read
your web page.  I understand your frustrations.  From the outside looking in
I'd like to offer you some information, insight and some thoughts. 
Every MRC:RSS instructor I know does it for one reason, we want to.  For the
three years I was in Atsugi I gave up a weekend nearly every month to teach
riders the course so I they could get their licenses.  I never received a
dollar for my time.  Lots of times it actually cost me out of pocket to run
the class because the base had little to no funding for it.  We set up our
riding range in various places as there is no permanent place set aside for
it.  The whole reason there is a program there is because of one man, a
retiree.  Actually there would have been no program in Atsugi for a number
of years if it wasn't for this second class citizen.  We adhered to the Navy
policy as we instructed on the Atsugi.  Only the MRC:RSS course is required.
It is a good course, taught by volunteers.  This volunteer writing you was
taught by William Cosby, whom I hold in high regard.  It is very ironic and
I know this for fact that the core argument you have made to him is a fight
he has been championing for the last couple of years.  To get consistency in
all DOD motorcycle training programs.  But if you look at his office title
you'll notice he is employed by only one component of the DOD.  He is a
straight forward man who loves to ride and has a serious passion for
teaching safe responsible motorcycling.  The OPNAV is written with
everyone's safety in mind and the latest edition has actually been well
received by most riders as it relaxed the requirement for wearing retro
reflective vests in the day time.  I suggest you try to mend you fences here
with Bill as you both have the same goal of standardizing the motorcycle
riding curriculum throughout the DOD.  In the mean time quit being so
stubborn go to the Air Force base and get your sticker so you can ride on
base.  I'd eat a lot of crow just to get on my bike right now

Very respectfully,
PHCS(AW) Jerry McLain
USS KITTY HAWK CV 63
OPS LCPO
FPO AP 96634-2770
DSN 243-HAWK x 6202

Subj: Request for investigation concerning DOD Motorcycle Safety Course 
Date: 3/26/02 4:31:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: myersag@clf.navy.mil
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL, wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


Admiral Robert J. Natter, USN
Commander in Chief
U.S. ATLANTIC FLEET


PURPLE HEART

I would like to request an investigation into the reasoning why the Naval Seabee Base, Gulfport, Mississippi does not comply with the same Motorcycle Safety Course as Keesler Air Force Base.

I have completed the Experienced Motorcycle Safety Course, not on the Air Force Base, but out in town.

As you will be able to review in my web page, I have tried through the Chain of Command starting with the Executive Officer, CBC, Gulfport, Mississippi Seabee Base.

NAVAL SEABEE BASE, GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI - March 15, 2002
Click here

http://mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm


Please feel free to call - fax - or email me for any questions.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: No Response - Corrected Copy 
Date: 3/27/02 3:46:38 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


Betty, I am feeling as though you don't want to get back too me. It was the CO's letter, which gave me your phone and email address.

Are you to busy to contact me?

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb

Subj: RE: No Response - Corrected Copy 
Date: 3/28/02 2:45:08 PM Central Standard Time
From: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Steve McCaleb,
  I've been on emergency leave - back to work today.  The motorcycle safety
course dates for April are - 4th & 5th of April or 6th & 7th of April - It
is a two day course as you know, hours will be from 0730-1600.  Let me know
as soon as possible so I can put your name on the roster before it fills up.

VR,
Betty Jo Long

Subj: RE: No Response - Corrected Copy 
Date: 3/28/02 4:05:38 PM Central Standard Time
From: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
CC: mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb - Please let me clarify my previous e-mail - I should have said
"We have two courses set for the month of April - the 4th & 5th April or 6th
& 7th of April.   I currently have openings in either course, which one
would you like to be registered in.    Thanks, Betty

-----Original Message-----
From: Long, Betty J
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:49 PM
To: 'mccaleb4thdist@aol.com'
Cc: Kelm, Brian R CAPT; Ashley, Mark C CDR
Subject: RE: No Response - Corrected Copy


Steve McCaleb,
  I've been on emergency leave - back to work today.  The motorcycle safety
course dates for April are - 4th & 5th of April or 6th & 7th of April - It
is a two day course as you know, hours will be from 0730-1600.  Let me know
as soon as possible so I can put your name on the roster before it fills up.

VR,
Betty Jo Long

Subj: Motor Cycle Safety Course 
Date: 3/30/02 9:28:35 AM Central Standard Time
From: mclainge@kitty-hawk.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Shipmate,
I should have been applying SIPDE as I wrote you.  Seeing my e-mail to you
on your web page came as a shock.  But the even bigger shock is the fact you
didn't even reply to me and just posted it with out informing me.  Is this
how you all do business in Gulfport, MS?

Very respectfully,
PHCS(AW) Jerry McLain
USS KITTY HAWK CV 63
OPS LCPO
FPO AP 96634-2770
DSN 243-HAWK x 6202


Subj: Re: Motor Cycle Safety Course 
Date: 3/30/02 9:50:03 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: mclainge@kitty-hawk.navy.mil


I am sorry I have not responded to your email, but I have been busy.

I was grateful for the information you provided me, and I was happy to hear you opinion.

But, I have my reasons for ensuring that I now will be able to go through the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, here on the Naval Seabee Base.

  Commanding Officer B. R. Kelm Letter
Click here


I am now researching to ensure the Naval Seabee Base has the proper instructors in order to provide the Motorcycle Safety Course.

You can read the necessary qualifications need to be a Motorcycle Safety Instructor.

By staying in touch with this web page you can see everything I am doing.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: RE: Confirm date  
Date: 4/1/02 7:39:09 AM Central Standard Time
From: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Steve McCaleb, 
 You are on the roster for the 4th & 5th of April - I will send you classroom location info later today. 
Betty Jo Long

 

Subj: RE: Qualifications for Motorcycle Instructor as per NAVSAFECEN 
Date: 4/1/02 9:28:43 AM Central Standard Time
From: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Steve,
     I'm sure Mr. Cosby from the Navy Safety Center will answer your question as he is the one that provided me with the name & phone number of the instructor.  
Betty   

Subj: RE: Confirm date  
Date: 4/1/02 9:54:39 AM Central Standard Time
From: bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Steve,
   You are on the roster for the 4th & 5th of April.  Class starts at 0730 both days and the classroom will be at the Round House, Bldg #324, when you get to the main gate, pass & ID, will have your name on the list.  The instructor said to remind the students about the motorcycle endorsement on your state license or a motorcycle permit.  If you have any questions, let me know. 
Betty

 
Subj: Motorcycle Safety Course onboard CBC Gulfport, MS 
Date: 4/1/02 3:51:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
I know that this is a seemingly insignificant email.
I also am aware that it probably doesn't mean anything
to you.  I have been riding motorcycles for a
relatively short time (only about 2 years).  I also
paid out of pocket for a civilian motorcycle safety
course.  The course in question was given at Tidewater
Community College (TCC) and was taught by the same
instructor that teaches it onboard Naval Air Station
Oceana, Virginia Beach, VA.  I understand your concern
for safety related issues.  I too, see everyday the
public's lack of respect for motorcycle riders.
However, I do not understand your complaint.  If the
course was offered at Keesler Air Force Base, you
should have ridden your 2001 Honda Goldwing to Keesler
Air Force Base, completed the course, and gotten your
base decals.  I had to ride 35 minutes one way, to go
to the safety course at TCC and give up an entire
weekend of beautiful riding weather, just to complete
the course, so that I could get my base decal.  Not
once did I complain that the trip was too far or whine
that it wasn't offered at the base I was stationed on.
Now, your incessant crying, has caused an entire
military installation of motorcycle riders to be taken
away from their assigned workcenters for 2 days, due
to your laziness.  How can you call yourself a
motorcycle enthusiast?  I enjoy every moment that I am
on my motorcycle.  I would have gladly ridden to
Keesler Air Force Base and taken their safety course.
I suppose it's just like anything else in the
military; it doesn't matter how you get the job done,
just get it done.  I would just like to take this
opportunity to thank you for making not only me, but
others at my command, go through a course which we
have already been through.  I can only hope that in
the future, you handle your personal issues on a
personal level, and not waste time dragging people,
who could be otherwise gainfully employed in the
defense of our nation, through lengthy courses, which
we have already attended.  Thank you sir, for making
sure that our Sailors and Airmen are afforded every
opportunity to be the safest motorcycle riders
possible.  I am also certain that their Leading Petty
Officers and Leading Chief Petty Officers thank you as
well, for making sure that their already low numbers
of personnel are lowered, if only for 2 days.  You are
the greatest retiree I've ever known.

Very Respectfully,
David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

Subj: Re: Motorcycle Safety Course onboard CBC Gulfport, MS 
Date: 4/1/02 4:11:04 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
CC: wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil


I can't thank you enough for the email you have presented too me.

I should however explain a few things, first if you had go to keesler Air Force Base and taken their course you still would not be able to obtain a base sticker at the Naval Seabee Base.

I too took the safety course out in town and paid for the course, but when I took my completion card to the Seabee Base I was told it was not there course so I could not get a base sticker.

I have requested that all of DOD provide the same safety course in order to obtain a base sticker whichever base you take the course at.

I have emailed Mr. William Cosby today and requested he provide me with the name/s of the course instructors in order to ensure they have attended his 7 day instructor course and are fully qualified under the OPNAVINST 5100.12G and the

  Naval Safety Center Sponsored Motorcycle Instructor Courses
                                        
Click here
http://mississippiwebsite.com/motorcyclyinstcourse.htm
                                         Click here

I am grateful for your concern, which makes the departments in the navy to have everyone go back through the Basic Motorcycle Safety Course in accordance with Mr. William Cosby's Instructor Course.

If I can be of any further help to you, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
U.S. NAVAL SEABEE RETIRED


Subj: Fwd: Motorcycle Safety Course onboard CBC Gulfport, MS 
Date: 4/1/02 4:12:06 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil



-----------------
Forwarded Message: To Mr. William Cosby
Subj: Motorcycle Safety Course onboard CBC Gulfport, MS 
Date: 4/1/02 3:51:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Mr. McCaleb,
I know that this is a seemingly insignificant email.
I also am aware that it probably doesn't mean anything
to you.  I have been riding motorcycles for a
relatively short time (only about 2 years).  I also
paid out of pocket for a civilian motorcycle safety
course.  The course in question was given at Tidewater
Community College (TCC) and was taught by the same
instructor that teaches it onboard Naval Air Station
Oceana, Virginia Beach, VA.  I understand your concern
for safety related issues.  I too, see everyday the
public's lack of respect for motorcycle riders.
However, I do not understand your complaint.  If the
course was offered at Keesler Air Force Base, you
should have ridden your 2001 Honda Goldwing to Keesler
Air Force Base, completed the course, and gotten your
base decals.  I had to ride 35 minutes one way, to go
to the safety course at TCC and give up an entire
weekend of beautiful riding weather, just to complete
the course, so that I could get my base decal.  Not
once did I complain that the trip was too far or whine
that it wasn't offered at the base I was stationed on.
Now, your incessant crying, has caused an entire
military installation of motorcycle riders to be taken
away from their assigned workcenters for 2 days, due
to your laziness.  How can you call yourself a
motorcycle enthusiast?  I enjoy every moment that I am
on my motorcycle.  I would have gladly ridden to
Keesler Air Force Base and taken their safety course.
I suppose it's just like anything else in the
military; it doesn't matter how you get the job done,
just get it done.  I would just like to take this
opportunity to thank you for making not only me, but
others at my command, go through a course which we
have already been through.  I can only hope that in
the future, you handle your personal issues on a
personal level, and not waste time dragging people,
who could be otherwise gainfully employed in the
defense of our nation, through lengthy courses, which
we have already attended.  Thank you sir, for making
sure that our Sailors and Airmen are afforded every
opportunity to be the safest motorcycle riders
possible.  I am also certain that their Leading Petty
Officers and Leading Chief Petty Officers thank you as
well, for making sure that their already low numbers
of personnel are lowered, if only for 2 days.  You are
the greatest retiree I've ever known.

Very Respectfully,
David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

Subj: Re: Motorcycle Safety Course onboard CBC Gulfport, MS 
Date: 4/1/02 4:37:49 PM Central Standard Time
From: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
Unfortunately, your efforts have not assisted me with
any problem that I have, because I had no problem
getting on base, or getting my decal, before you
surfaced with your complaint.  I was told today, April
1, 2002, by the CBC Security Department Leading Petty
Officer, that provided you had a DOD decal, from any
base, and a valid Motorcycle Safety Course Completion
Card, that you could ride your motorcycle onboard CBC
Gulfport, MS.  I do not understand or comprehend your
viewpoint.
Each individual has to deal with their own workload on
a daily basis.  They shouldn't have to be taken away
from their workcenters to complete a course which they
have already completed.  This is my chief complaint to
you.  If you had just completed the course onboard
Keesler Air Force Base and gotten your decals there,
then the issue of Safety Course Completion Cards would
have never come up.  The need for safety courses is a
genuine concern.  Their uniformity among the services,
is not.  We, the Navy, are not like any other service.

Therefore, our programs are going to be different.
Would you have us wear the same uniforms across the
board?  Or maybe we should be training the Army and
Air
Force how to pilot our planes and navigate our ships.
Be proud of who you are.  A retired Seabee.  A Navy
Seabee.  Sometimes, Mr. McCaleb, you just have to go
with the flow and do things you don't like to do.
Like getting a Safety Card from an Air Force base. 
Very respectfully,

David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

Subj: Motorcycle Safety Course (Navy) 
Date: 4/1/02 5:02:27 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
CC: wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil


David R. Bowman, PN2, USN, you stated:

"Be proud of who you are.  A retired Seabee.  A Navy
Seabee."


I assure you that I am proud to be a retired Naval Seabee, and by getting an Air Force Base Sticker would too me, be cheating.

I am willing to retake a Motorcycle Safety Course on the Naval Seabee Base, (which they have not had in years) so I may obtain a "Navy Base Sticker."

I am really not concerned about you have to go through the safety course again, and you should look forward to be able to take the motorcycle safety course again.

I will not however be taking the motorcycle safety course if Mr. Williams Cosby does not assure me that the instructors which, are providing the course here on the Seabee Base are qualified, as per OPNAVINST 5100.12G and has completed his 7 week instructor course.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com


Subj: Response to email from PN2 Bowman 
Date: 4/2/02 10:42:51 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil



David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

ubj: Re: Motorcycle Safety Course (Navy)
Date: 4/2/02 6:16:11 AM Central Standard Time
From: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Mr. McCaleb,
Your most recent email proved my theory about you
correct.  You honestly don't care about anyone except
for yourself. 

I find your comments offensive, I care about everyone, and
I am not responsible for you having to go through the
motorcycle course again. But is you are feel you do not want
to take the course don't.


That is apparent by your comment.  But
hey, that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.  I am
signed up for the class this Thursday.  So don't
worry, I will be there. 


Why would I worry about you being at the Thursday
motorcycle course?

As for you, all I can say, and this
is just my observation, is that you crave attention.


From all the email you are sending me, it seem you are
the one craving attention.
I have placed your email on my web page the same as
everyone else, which had an opinion on this subject.
If you believe I am wrong in what I am doing, fine,
but I believe the system is flawed and it needs to be
fixed.


Apparently, almost 21 years of active duty taught you
nothing about just doing what you're told. 

This does not make any since at all; "doing what you're told,"
have nothing to do with the matter at hand.

Having Air Force decals on your motorcycle is not cheating.  I
probably would have gotten mine there.  After all, I
would have already been on base for the course
.

Then why don't you go to Keesler and take there course
and get an Air Force Base Sticker.


Why not go straight to their pass and id office and get
decals.  They are DOD decals.  Not Air Force decals or
Navy decals.  DOD decals.  Maybe you had a momentary
lapse of thinking there. 


If you obtain an Air Force Base Decal it will say that it is
an Air Force decal.
Just like the decal on your bike say's that it is a Navy decal.
I have never been in the Air Force, but base security told me
that I would have to go the Keesler and take there motorcycle
course, get and Air Force decal and then I could enter the Seabee
Base.
But I could not bring the Motorcycle Completion Card to the Seabee Base
and obtain a Navy Base decal.


At any rate, thank you again for taking me away from my overwhelming
workload, so that I may be reminded of SIPDE and correct riding
position.  I can't say enough, how much I appreciate
it.  Hope to see you in class on Thursday.
Very respectfully,


I will be there, but if the instructors are not qualified to teach the course
I will also be leaving.
As per OPNAVINST 5100.12G


David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

STEVEN A. McCALEB
www.mississippiwebsite.seabeebase.htm

Subj: Re: Response to email from PN2 Bowman 
Date: 4/2/02 11:24:22 AM Central Standard Time
From: bravesfan1977@yahoo.com
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
This will be my last correspondence with you, as I
feel it is getting me nowhere.  I am happy that my
comments offended you, as your words/actions have done
nothing but offended me as a motorcyclist.  For some
strange reason, you feel the need to have CBC Gulfport
MS decals on your motorcycle.  If they are that
important to you, I am truly sorry.  I have received
correspondence from Mr. William Cosby.  I do thank you
for forwarding my email to him.  I had the occasion to
speak with him while in Virginia and look forward to
speaking with him again regarding this situation. 
When I mentioned doing what you’re told, in my
previous email, I meant that you should have gone to
the pass and id office onboard Keesler Air Force Base,
as I’m sure the instructor pointed out, to get your
decals.  Does it really matter what base your decals
come from?  I would think that as long as you had
them, you would be satisfied.  However, I see that
this is not the case. 
Mr. McCaleb, I am not searching for attention, as I am
only corresponding with you.  I don’t mind the
addition of my email to your website.  I think the
public should see what is going on and decide for
themselves just how important a topic this is.  Good
luck in your quest to right every wrong in the world.
Have patience.  My only hope is that I never have the
pleasure of your company while riding my motorcycle.
Have a good day and please be safe while riding.

Very Respectfully,

David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

 Subj:   Re: Response to email from PN2 Bowman
Date:   4/2/02 11:24:22 AM Central Standard Time   
From:            bravesfan1977@yahoo.com           
To:            mccaleb4thdist@aol.com   
Sent from the Internet (Details)         

           

Mr. McCaleb,
This will be my last correspondence with you, as I
feel it is getting me nowhere.  I am happy that my
comments offended you, as your words/actions have done
nothing but offended me as a motorcyclist.  For some
strange reason, you feel the need to have CBC Gulfport
MS decals on your motorcycle. 

I find it sad that you have missed the point in what I have
Done, but perhaps in the future when your old you may
Understand.
I don't purposely offend anyone that is why I place everyone's
email in the web page.
We will see each other Thursday and perhaps you will learn
Something, or at least I hope so.

  If they are that important to you, I am truly sorry.  I have received
correspondence from Mr. William Cosby.  I do thank you
for forwarding my email to him.  I had the occasion to
speak with him while in Virginia and look forward to
speaking with him again regarding this situation. 

Why would I need to know you have received correspondence
with Mr. William Cosby.
He has seen and read my web page, so I know he is well aware
of my opinion concerning this matter.

  When I mentioned doing what you’re told, in my
previous email, I meant that you should have gone to
the pass and id office onboard Keesler Air Force Base,
as I’m sure the instructor pointed out, to get your
decals. 

  Wrong, I was told by Mr. Darryl Gilford, the only certified Safety
Motorcycle Safety Instructor for all three Safety Course in Mississippi.
He told me, after he spoke with Keesler, that I would have to take
there Motorcycle Safety Course.
Which is the same Safety Course I had just completed, and is the same course I had completed, (the experienced Motorcycle Safety Course).

  Does it really matter what base your decals
come from?  I would think that as long as you had
them, you would be satisfied.  However, I see that
this is not the case. 

The OPNAVINST 5100.12G states that I must complete there
Motorcycle Safety Course.
That was also what I was told at the Security Office by MA1- Turner,
and that is what I will be doing Thursday & Friday.

  Mr. McCaleb, I am not searching for attention, as I am
only corresponding with you.  I don’t mind the
addition of my email to your website.  I think the
public should see what is going on and decide for
themselves just how important a topic this is. 

  I agree this is an important topic and I am happy to see
the Naval Seabee Base comply with there own instructions.

  Good luck in your quest to right every wrong in the world.
Have patience.  My only hope is that I never have the
pleasure of your company while riding my motorcycle.
Have a good day and please be safe while riding.

I get the feeling you don't like me at all, and that is sad, because
I am a likeable person.
But to each his/her own, and it is not likely we will ever meet on the
road.

  Very Respectfully,

  David R. Bowman, PN2, USN

 

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/seabeebase.htm

Subj: Motorcycle Safety 
Date: 4/2/02 11:25:41 AM Central Standard Time
From: HouckJW@clf.navy.mil
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Dear Mr. McCaleb,

Thank you for your email to Admiral Natter of 26 March concerning the
motorcycle safety course.  I am responding on behalf of Admiral Natter. 

After inquiring into the question you raised, I understand that the required
safety course is now being offered at Gulfport, and that you are enrolled
this week.  I hope this will address your concerns.

If I may be of further assistance, please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

J. W. Houck

J. W. Houck
CAPT, JAGC, USN
Fleet Judge Advocate
Commander in Chief
U.S. Atlantic Fleet

Subj: Reply to Admiral Natter email 
Date: 4/2/02 12:23:36 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: HouckJW@clf.navy.mil
CC: brkelm@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, mcashley@cbcgulfport.navy.mil, Garcia.Felipe@hq.navy.mil, wcosby@safetycenter.navy.mil, FlemingC@CNRSE.NAVY.MIL, bjlong@cbcgulfport.navy.mil


J. W. Houck
CAPT, JAGC, USN
Fleet Judge Advocate
Commander in Chief
U.S. Atlantic Fleet

Thank you for bringing this matter before Admiral Natter, I am also sorry this matter went this far up the Chain-of-Command

I would ask that the Naval Seabee Base conduct there own Basic Motorcycle Safety Course, in accordance with the OPNAVINST 5100.12G, and also have qualified motorcycles instructor by Mr. William Cosby (Norfolk, Va.).

I hope all of DOD will pull together and choose one Motorcycle Safety Course, this would provide stability towards not having each branch having different Motorcycle Safety Course.

This will also help each person in the military and retired military to take the Safety Course on any military installation in order to obtain a Base Sticker.

I look forward to future discussions on this matter with you.

Again I want to thank you for you help in this matter.

Steven A. McCaleb
U.S. NAVAL SEABEE RETIRED

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THE OUTCOME OF MY BASIC MOTORCYCLE SAFETY COURSE
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               mccaleb4thdist@aol.com

Steven A. McCaleb
Steven A. McCaleb 
www.mississippiwebsite.com

 

 

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