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Subj: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 11:17:27 AM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: mspersmail@pers.state.ms.us


I would like to know if there is any other retirement system which a person can be employed for four (4) years and be vested for retirement.

Please reply

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com/msretirementsys.htm

 

Subj: RE: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 12:07:37 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
For an answer to your question, you might want to visit the websites of
other state retirement systems through the Quicklinks map on the Links to
Related Topics page on our web site.  I am not personally aware of another
retirement system with a four (4) year vesting period; however, this would
have to be thoroughly researched to give you a definitive answer.
Thanks,
Bob Rhoads
Mississippi PERS

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    mccaleb4thdist@aol.com [SMTP:mccaleb4thdist@aol.com]
> Sent:    Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:17 AM
> To:    mspersmail@pers.state.ms.us
> Subject:    Vested
>
> I would like to know if there is any other retirement system which a
> person
> can be employed for four (4) years and be vested for retirement.
>
> Please reply
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steven A. McCaleb
> www.mississippiwebsite.com/msretirementsys.htm
Subj: Re: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 1:16:29 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us


Since this is a Public Employee Retirement System, can I obtain documents of members under the Mississippi Public Records Act of 1983, or are these documents public domain.

I would like to see several if possible.

Thanks,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com
Subj: RE: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 12:53:48 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
I can only address the public retirement systems that we administer and the
vesting period for the PERS plan is four (4) years and has been four (4)
years since July 1, 1985.  Note, however, that a member with less than 25
years of creditable service is not eligible for service retirement benefits
until age 60.  Vesting for the Highway Safety Patrol Retirement Retirement
System is five (5) years.
Thanks,
Bob Rhoads
Mississippi PERS
Subj: Re: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 1:41:51 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us, mmoore@ago.state.ms.us, ltgov@mail.senate.state.ms.us
CC: beast@ago.state.ms.us, agins@ago.state.ms.us, yserv@ago.state.ms.us, wsnug@ago.state.ms.us, msag03@ago.state.ms.us, msag04@ago.state.ms.us, msag05@ago.state.ms.us, msag06@ago.state.ms.us, msag08@ago.state.ms.us, msag09@ago.state.ms.us, msag18@ago.state.ms.us, msag16@ago.state.ms.us, msag11@ago.state.ms.us, msag12@ago.state.ms.us, msag17@ago.state.ms.us, msag15@ago.state.ms.us, agadmin@ago.state.ms.us, aghum01@ago.state.ms.us, aghum02@ago.state.ms.us, aclarke@mail.house.state.ms.us, bbroomfield@mail.house.state.ms.us, beaton@mail.house.state.ms.us, cbrown@mail.house.state.ms.us, ccapps@mail.house.state.ms.us, ldavis@mail.house.state.ms.us, ebanks@mail.house.state.ms.us, eblackmon@mail.house.state.ms.us, meakes@mail.house.state.ms.us, gchism@mail.house.state.ms.us, cespy@mail.house.state.ms.us, jellington@mail.house.state.ms.us, jevans@mail.house.state.ms.us, jcreel@mail.house.state.ms.us, jbarbour@mail.house.state.ms.us, jbarnett@mail.house.state.ms.us, jellzey@mail.house.state.ms.us, jfillingane@mail.house.state.ms.us, jeads@mail.house.state.ms.us, jcompretta@mail.house.state.ms.us, Bob Rhoads
Mississippi PERS


Bob, if there is one thing I have learned about Public documents is that they are public.

You may say they are not public records, but everything which is paid for by taxpayers is public.

I will need to law which states these records are not public records and I will take it from there.

I want to thank you for your help in this matter.

Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com
Subj: RE: Vested 
Date: 2/6/02 1:30:42 PM Central Standard Time
From: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us
To: mccaleb4thdist@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Mr. McCaleb,
Individual member records are not public records.
Thanks,
Bob Rhoads
Mississippi PERS
Subj: This is an unlawful law 
Date: 2/6/02 5:55:03 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mccaleb5thdist
To: Bob_Rhoads@pers.state.ms.us, mmoore@ago.state.ms.us, ltgov@mail.senate.state.ms.us
CC: beast@ago.state.ms.us, agins@ago.state.ms.us, yserv@ago.state.ms.us, wsnug@ago.state.ms.us, msag03@ago.state.ms.us, msag04@ago.state.ms.us, msag05@ago.state.ms.us, msag06@ago.state.ms.us, msag08@ago.state.ms.us, msag09@ago.state.ms.us, msag18@ago.state.ms.us, msag16@ago.state.ms.us, msag11@ago.state.ms.us, msag12@ago.state.ms.us, msag17@ago.state.ms.us, msag15@ago.state.ms.us, agadmin@ago.state.ms.us, aghum01@ago.state.ms.us, aghum02@ago.state.ms.us, aclarke@mail.house.state.ms.us, bbroomfield@mail.house.state.ms.us, beaton@mail.house.state.ms.us, cbrown@mail.house.state.ms.us, ccapps@mail.house.state.ms.us, ldavis@mail.house.state.ms.us, ebanks@mail.house.state.ms.us, eblackmon@mail.house.state.ms.us, meakes@mail.house.state.ms.us, gchism@mail.house.state.ms.us, cespy@mail.house.state.ms.us, jellington@mail.house.state.ms.us, jevans@mail.house.state.ms.us, jcreel@mail.house.state.ms.us, jbarbour@mail.house.state.ms.us, jbarnett@mail.house.state.ms.us, jellzey@mail.house.state.ms.us, jfillingane@mail.house.state.ms.us, jeads@mail.house.state.ms.us, jcompretta@mail.house.state.ms.us, Mccaleb5thdist


Bob, I have started a web page on not being able to obtain records concerning and unlawful law.

Thanks for you help


Mississippi Code 25-11-119 (3) - Another secrecy law with taxpayers money

25-11-119. Administration of Article 3.



       (1)  The board shall keep such data as shall be necessary for actuarial valuation of the assets and liabilities of the system and for checking its operating experience. 


       (2)  The board shall keep minutes which shall be open to public inspection. It shall have the accounts of the system audited annually by the State Audit Department and shall publish as of the end of each fiscal year a report showing the fiscal transactions of the system for the preceding fiscal year, the amount of the accumulated cash and securities of the system, a statement of income and expenditures, a statement of investments acquired and disposed of, and a balance sheet showing the financial condition of the system by means of an actuarial valuation of its assets and liabilities. It shall also publish a synopsis of the report. 


(3)  The board shall establish a general office for the meeting of the board and for the administrative personnel; provide for the installation of an adequate system of books, accounts, and records which will give effect to all requirements of Articles 1 and 3; and credit all assets received by the funds according to the purposes for which they are held. All books, accounts and records shall be kept in the general office of the board and shall be public records except for individual member records. The system shall not disclose the name, address or contents of any individual member records without the prior written consent of the individual to whom the record pertains. 

       (4)  The board shall hold regular meetings at least quarterly in each year and such special meetings as may be deemed necessary. All meetings shall be open to the public. 


(5)  The board shall have power to make contracts, and to sue and be sued, under the name of the Board of Trustees of the Public Employees' Retirement System of Mississippi. 



(6)  Legal advisor. The Attorney General shall be the legal advisor of the board; and the board may employ counsel when needed. 


    (7)  Medical board. The board may designate a medical board to be composed of three (3) physicians or may contract with another governmental agency or non-governmental disability determination service that is qualified to make disability determinations. If required, other physicians may be engaged to report on special cases. The medical board or other governmental or non-governmental disability determination service agency so designated shall arrange for, and pass upon, all medical examinations required under the provisions of this article; shall investigate all essential statements and certificates by or on behalf of a member in connection with an application for disability retirement; and shall report in writing to the board of trustees its conclusions and recommendations upon all the matters referred to it. 

(8)  Duties of actuary. The board of trustees shall designate an actuary who shall be the technical advisor of the board on matters regarding the operation of the system, and shall perform such other duties as are required in connection therewith. 


(9)  At least once in each two-year period, the actuary shall make an actuarial survey of the mortality, service, withdrawal and compensation experience of the members and beneficiaries of the retirement system, and shall make a valuation of the assets and liabilities of the system. Taking into account the result of such investigation and valuation, the board of trustees shall adopt for the retirement system such mortality, service, and other tables as shall be deemed necessary. On the basis of such tables as the board of trustees shall adopt, the actuary shall make valuations of the assets and liabilities of the funds of the system. 


Sincerely,

Steven A. McCaleb
www.mississippiwebsite.com

STEVEN A. McCALEB